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This is why I tend to avoid the Indystar.com talkback section... folks will say all kinds of ridiculously stupid and ignorant things when they don't have to admit they were the ones who said it.

Take, for example:

"Gays are not sexual deviants?  Then explain to me why they cannot reproduce?"

...dude, seriously?  Inability to reproduce makes you a "sexual deviant"?  Well, then I guess you'd better add sexual deviancy to my list of "sins" (not that it wasn't already there I'm sure, at least for some folks).  And while you're at it, absolutely every man and woman in the world who has fertility issues.

Oh, and Sarah. You know, Abraham's wife?  I mean sure, she had a baby when she was 90... so, I guess for 90 years, she was a sexual deviant too.

What?  I'm sorry?  I'm Pagan so what do I know?

What do I know indeed.  I know YOUR Bible, apparently.  Better than you do.  Hm, in't that interesting.

Love,
Crystal
 

Date: 2008-11-17 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com
I hate it when people get into tangents like that. Yes, being gay is a "deviation from the sexual norm" in a cold scientific sense, but that's not what this person is getting at. He wants to use a person's deviation-from-norm as a justification for "deviant" which is further defined as someone worthy of shame, degradation and generally being denied rights and respect as a human being.

Deviations from norm are what make us humans so adaptable and interesting, but not everyone sees it that way.

Date: 2008-11-17 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crysthewolf.livejournal.com
That's because some people are TEH STOOPID. =P

makes humans adaptable and interesting, and we aren't even the only critters who practice homosexuality!!!!

Date: 2008-11-17 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echoweaver.livejournal.com
Um, yeah, and everywhere in the Bible, a marriage is between one man and one woman, right? HOW many wives did Jacob have?

Date: 2008-11-17 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echoweaver.livejournal.com
Oh, for Gods, sake, SOLOMON?

Date: 2008-11-17 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crysthewolf.livejournal.com
wasn't it around 700? And hell, that didn't even include the concubines!!!

'Course the justification for THAT was "yes, and they're who led Solomon into sin."

dontcha just love justification? =P

Date: 2008-11-17 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echoweaver.livejournal.com
Right. But having 500 (?) concubines was not, in ITSELF a sin?

OTOH, the Bible does tend to portray a God that got pretty honked off if you let your loved ones drag you off the path of God, like by marrying someone of a different faith. So if you follow that strategy, then I'm living in sin.

Date: 2008-11-17 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echoweaver.livejournal.com
I just love to be bad ;-).

Date: 2008-11-17 06:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-11-17 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solstice-singer.livejournal.com
I wonder if not wanting to produce makes one a sexual deviant, too. Even if I was straight, there would be no kids for me. I'm just not a kid person.

(Sigh) People do say very, very stupid things, and, not having to own up to what they said, just makes it all the worse.

Date: 2008-11-18 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] semiexpat.livejournal.com
A bit off topic but I thought you would be amused - I was driving my father someplace when he started spouting off about "the gays" and how "they" want to ruin marriage. I asked him what his problem with gay marriage was and he said that marriage was only for procreation. I then asked when he (58) and his new wife(61) would start popping out the babies since that was the only reason to get married according to him.

Shockingly, I haven't heard another word about it. :)

Date: 2008-11-18 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crysthewolf.livejournal.com
hehe, nice.

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